The leaves that hung but never grew

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Washington State is in a state of emergency due to the measles outbreak which is now at 31 cases. Measles has been confirmed in 3 other states. Measles has an R-0 of 12 to 18. Measles is incredibly easy to transmit and can stay alive in the air for 2 hours and has an R-0 of 12-18 (honestly terrifying).

you know what happens with measles? permanent hearing loss due to ear infection or brain swelling, pneumonia, and intellectual difficulty again due to brain swelling. 1.5 in 1,000 will die. and again, even if you get away relatively unharmed, the infection rate is massively high and plenty others wont be as lucky.

one final note: there is precedent of multiple courts ruling that not vaccinating children is a form of medical neglect.

good job you insufferable, delusional fuckwads.

And the only people who suffer are the unvaccinated.

As for the general fearmongering this post has implied, keep in mind that measles was fairly common and often parents would bring their kids over to a house that had mumps, measles or chicken pox and while unpleasant, we generally recovered.

Now, I’m al for vaccines, but honestly, why are we so afraid of getting sick? It’s not the end of the world.

And the unvaccinated are mostly babies that are too young, the immunocompromised who will never be able to get vaccinated and people whose immune systems were wiped out by severe illnesses like cancer. Measles is the end of the world for those people. It’s not just “getting sick”. Measles is nothing like the common cold.

Severe Complications

Some people may suffer from severe complications, such as pneumonia (infection of the lungs) and encephalitis (swelling of the brain). They may need to be hospitalized and could die.

As many as one out of every 20 children with measles gets pneumonia, the most common cause of death from measles in young children.

About one child out of every 1,000 who get measles will develop encephalitis (swelling of the brain) that can lead to convulsions and can leave the child deaf or with intellectual disability.

For every 1,000 children who get measles, one or two will die from it.

Measles may cause pregnant woman to give birth prematurely, or have a low-birth-weight baby.

The Measles chapter of the Epidemiology and Prevention of Vaccine Preventable Diseases (Pink Book) describes measles complications in more depth.

Long-term Complications

Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) is a very rare, but fatal disease of the central nervous system that results from a measles virus infection acquired earlier in life. SSPE generally develops 7 to 10 years after a person has measles, even though the person seems to have fully recovered from the illness. Since measles was eliminated in 2000, SSPE is rarely reported in the United States.

Among people who contracted measles during the resurgence in the United States in 1989 to 1991, 4 to 11 out of every 100,000 were estimated to be at risk for developing SSPE. The risk of developing SSPE may be higher for a person who gets measles before they are two years of age. For more information, see Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE): MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia.

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/complications.html

And it’s spreading into Idaho, Oregon, Utah and Nevada.

Anyone who doesn’t vaccinate their kids should be moved onto an island away from society.

VACCINATE YOUR CHILDREN

Having been born in a developing nation, we fought tooth and nail to get vaccinated. I am still in shock that people in developed nations turn their noses up at vaccines.

I got chicken pox before I could be vaccinated and it’s only luck and my parent’s diligence that kept me from dying.

Vaccinate your kids!!

Something else to think about:  “Back in the 1960s, the U.S. started vaccinating kids for measles. As expected, children stopped getting measles.But something else happened.Childhood deaths from all infectious diseases plummeted.”

So scientists studied it and discovered that “The measles virus may erase immune memory, leaving patients vulnerable to other infections.” FOR UP TO 3 YEARS

https://www.princeton.edu/news/2015/05/07/deadly-shadow-measles-may-weaken-immune-system-three-years

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2015/05/07/404963436/scientists-crack-a-50-year-old-mystery-about-the-measles-vaccine

https://thepathologist.com/subspecialties/measles-induced-immune-amnesia

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/348/6235/694.abstract

Want to know why there used to be chicken pox and measles parties? It’s because there were no vaccines and if your kids got it at a certain age (i.e. after 6 but before puberty) than they were more likely to survive without long term effects (i.e. sterility and/or death).

OP above thinking ‘falling ill is nothing to worry about’ - those parties were all about playing statistics on making sure your children didn’t die.  So yeah, fuck off you nitwit..

Ok so I’m relatively old (53). I did get some vacs but contracted chicken pox. From my perspective as a parent the nonvaxxers fears are real. However, if vaccines were given one at a time instead of loads of 2 or 3, perhaps fears would be allayed. Why are children given so many at once? Is it the insurance companies mandate ? If so, then the possible dangers of vaccines as we know it might be allayed. Both my kids are vaccinated but I was really scared my oldest was going to be Autistic. I realize now (again, the perspective of age) that that fear was ignorant and prejudiced. An Autistic child is not a “to be avoided at all cost “ outcome. Trust me, you really would rather have an Autistic, or deaf, or blind child than not to have THAT particular child at all. And for all the other reasons stated above:

Vaccinate your children!

Vaccines are given in groups to reduce the number of needles the kid gets — it’s literally for the child’s comfort. 

Modern vaccines have fewer antigens (the active bits) than older ones, so even when you are vaccinating your child, there’s less going into your child.

http://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/combination-vaccines-and-multiple-vaccinations

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/109/1/124.full

Other than for people who have demonstrated, medically diagnosed allergies or reactions to some part of the vaccine, or who are immunocompromised, the “dangers” of vaccines were invented by Andrew Wakefield to make money.

Wakefield was (IS NO LONGER) a doctor who had developed a single measles injection. But the NHS used an MMR vaccine (measles, mumps, rubella) and wasn’t interested in using his single shot.

So he found a group of lawyers who were willing to file lawsuits challenging the combination MMR shot. He rounded up 12 children (for statistical purposes, 12 participants is equivalent to supermarket gossip; it’s not reliable and you can’t extrapolate results from it), of varying developmental abilities and both with and without bowel issues, did NOT inform their parents of what he was testing, and injected them with his vaccine. He also performed painful and unnecessary procedures like colonoscopies (ON CHILDREN) and lumbar punctures. 

Two already had gut issues. NONE OF THEM BECAME AUTISTIC AFTER THE SHOT. But Wakefield flat-out lied and faked his data so he could file a lawsuit.

Wakefield’s article in the Lancet was retracted, his medical license was revoked for fraud, and he is FORBIDDEN from practicing medicine in the U.K.

Vaccines don’t cause autism. They never did.

As for the scheduling:

What happens when you get a vaccine shot is that your body produces an immune response. For many diseases, you produce let’s say a 50% response — you’re halfway protected. As the months go by, this falls to 25%. That’s when you need the next shot. So you get a second shot. This produces a 50% response again. This gets you to 75% protected. Months go by and you’re back down, but to 50%. So you get the last shot which should put you over the top.

This why children get multiple rounds of vaccines over several years. The point is to allow their bodies to become accustomed to the antibodies and learn resistance. 

I had a coworker who never had chicken pox as a child and never got the vaccine. She visited a friend who didn’t vaccinate her kids. The kids had been exposed to chicken pox but didn’t actually have it. 

She ended up with Bell’s Palsy. 

She looked like she’d had a stroke. She was on short-term disability for six months because she was simply too exhausted to function. It forced her to retire early because she no longer had the stamina to work.

Vaccinate. Your. Kids. 

Vaccination has always produced a certain amount of suspicion and anxiety, often in populations who have good reasons to be suspicious of state institutions. What’s weird about this go-round is that it is being fomented largely by people who have never been subjected to state terror and have no real reason to fear that they ever will be. It seems to me to be part of the kind of search for ‘purity’ that also drives cleanses, diet crazes, etc. and which is in part created by anxiety about the fact that our environment is now thoroughly and possibly irretrievably polluted. This anxiety is especially acute in first-time parents–because it is deliberately fomented by the baby industry. 

Seriously, when Mrs. P was pregnant with PJ, we were absolutely bombarded with messages about how threat-filled the world was and how it was our duty to spend money to protect our future child from all of these threats. We are encouraged to see the child as a ‘pure’ body that we must keep pure at all costs. It is too late for us; we are already polluted; but the child represents a brand new body who could, we are encouraged to believe, be kept free of taints and toxins if we only work hard enough and buy enough products. Don’t use the wrong kind of plastic in your baby bottles, even though there may well be enough plastic in your drinking water to damage your child regardless of what vessel you put it in. Make your own baby food out of organic vegetables, even if you will be freezing it in ice cube trays made out of the wrong kind of plastic. And so on. It is easy for me to see how some parents who were overtaken by the purity gospel would slide from “don’t let environmental toxins touch your child” to “don’t let anyone put anything into your child’s bloodstream if you can’t personally verify that it is not a toxin”–which of course no parent can actually do. 

Anyway. Vaccinate your kids. And maybe also accept that your children live in the same polluted world you live in and you can’t make the world any better for them without making it better for everyone.

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